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Poll: What Do You Think of a Livingston Commuter Shuttle to South Orange?

Livingston council discussed plan Monday night for Livingston Mall shuttle to South Orange Train Station.


Monday night, Livingston council members discussed starting a shuttle service for township residents to transport commuters into New York City or Hoboken via the South Orange train station.

Under the plan proposed by Alan Karpas, chairman of the township's Vision 20/20 committee and Don Watt, vice president of Transoptions, a transportation non-profit organization, a commuter van would run from the Livingston Mall's parking lot to the South Orange train station, which has New Jersey Transit trains heading to New York City and Hoboken. 

Under the proposal, the 15-passenger van would run from 6 to 10 a.m. and 4 to 9 p.m. from the Livingston Mall, where there would be free commuter parking. 

Karpas and Watt said the service would cost about $450 per day for the driver, vehicle and insurance, or $54,000 for a six-month trial run.

They proposed charging passengers $2 per ride and the shuttle would need a total of 25 riders per hour to break even. 

Besides sending workers to New York City and Hoboken, the shuttle could also be used for Day-trippers and as an alternative commuting system for workers at the Livingston Mall and Saint Barnabas Medical Center, Karpas said.

South Orange Village President Alex Torpey endorsed the plan Tuesday, telling Patch South Orange sub-editor Scott Egelberg, "I think that people, not just in South Orange, but in surrounding towns, see our town as kind of a transit destination and so I think we'll be happy to have Livingston residents come use our train station. We have a lot of West Orange residents that do so also, and that will hopefully be good for business in South Orange as well."

So, what's your thoughts. If the council goes through with their plan and begins shuttle service, would you take advantage of it?

Take our poll below and leave us your thoughts in the comment stream. 

grace February 29, 2012 at 08:28 PM
How about to Path train in Harrison?
estee February 29, 2012 at 10:59 PM
this is great! but a shuttle to PATH station in harrison will also be good.
Barbara March 01, 2012 at 12:30 AM
Many Livingston residents would be traveling a mile or two out of their way to get to Livingston Mall, just to turn around and retrace their steps to get to South Orange. This plan would make more sense if, in addition to picking up at Livingston Mall, the shuttle made a couple of other stops along the eastward route. It's not clear that residents of Chestnut Hill, for instance, would drive to Livingston Mall to pick up a shuttle to South Orange.
Margaret March 01, 2012 at 12:06 PM
Agreed with shuttle to path train, my husband who commutes daily to the city would still drive to the path if this was offered
caroline strass March 01, 2012 at 12:17 PM
And a shuttle to the PATH would be great too. It would cut commuting costs.
caroline strass March 01, 2012 at 12:20 PM
As a Hoboken commuter, I would take the shuttle, but I agree that it should stop at Silvermans or somewhere closer to St Barnabus for those of us who live nowhere near the mall.
Concerned Livingston Resident March 01, 2012 at 01:16 PM
i think it is a great idea. Livingston is remarkably "commuter unfriendly". Nearly sll the streets near the main streets where the bus goes are not eligible for day parking and hence you need to go to South Mountain arena (where you need to pay). In addition, the only park and ride in town (that I know of) is the Livingston Mall which is in the corner of the town and the bus runs less frequently from there. This is a step in the right direction.
Gucci March 01, 2012 at 02:19 PM
Excellent idea, however Livingston Mall is definitely not a convenient location for residents not located in that immediate area.
Thirty Four March 01, 2012 at 03:14 PM
Great start. However as other people felt, they might want to consider taking other stops as well. Might be good to take W Hobart Gap, S. Livingston, E. Northfield, Old Short Hills, S. Orange route to take more commuters. Ultimate goal should be the shuttle to Harrison where several hundred residents park their car in a $195/month spot. I hope Patch reports these great comments back to the committee.
grace March 01, 2012 at 04:06 PM
how about use the church, temple's parking lot during the week days for commuters? usually they are located near main street, will be easy for shuttle to pick up or drop off?
Candid March 01, 2012 at 06:42 PM
Regardless of proximity of the shuttle's stop to one's home, one can park one's car at Livingston Mall for free(Park and Ride there) unlike at South Orange Station(residents only there). Otherwise commuting to South Orange and then to NYC would be possible on your own car.
wetochwink March 01, 2012 at 08:38 PM
Shuttle to PATH in Harrison would catch my attention. Per Day fee too. Weekend service to promote mass transit to NYC would be great.
Danny March 15, 2012 at 12:39 PM
Shuttle service to PATH (Newark/Harrison stations) sounds like a better idea as that route can serve bigger masses. Livingston Mall and Essex Green could be optimal pick-up points as both have plenty of parking (parking is free) and they are both close to the highway (I-280). The more stops you make, the longer your commute. Pick up locations cannot possibly satisfy everyone and additional stops make the convenience of the shuttle logistically unsound.
manis July 18, 2012 at 08:24 PM
I dont think Livingston folks are aware of this fab idea, please spread the word ..:)
manis July 18, 2012 at 08:25 PM
PATH PATH PATH ... HARISON HARISON HARISON... two key words!!!! Not to far from So Train Station... lets make "Harison Path" route as part of this plan.
manis July 18, 2012 at 08:26 PM
Any suggestion on Location?
Camilla Wang July 27, 2012 at 01:50 AM
I can't wait for this to become reality! How often would the shuttle be running during the hours of operation? Hopefully every 10-15 minutes or so....
Jason September 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Love the concept but would prefer to path over south orange. This would need to be every 10 mins I currently park at mall and take the bus. Which i find clean and comfortable The biggest problem is that the bus comes to the mall infrequently and makes too many stops. It would help tremendously if they added another 2 busses in am and pm rush and stopped only at Essex green , arena and the mall

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